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ESSENDON players left Monday's meeting with lawyers confident they would beat claims they took banned drugs.
One of the lawyers acting for the players, David Grace, QC, told the players they should be ''very confident'' evidence they took thymosin beta 4 would not stand up.
It's believed Grace was responding to a question from one of the players.
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In what was a wideranging discussion, the players are understood to be confused about the show cause notices which alleged they received thymosin beta 4 from former sports scientist Stephen Dank, amid claims not one player admitted to using TB 4 in their interviews with ASADA and AFL investigators.
The point being the players had effectively already answered the show cause allegation.
At their initial interviews, it's believed a handful of players admitted to using thymosin. Others are believed to have answered vaguely with ''I don't know'', that "rings a bell'', "it's familiar''.
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The Bombers believe the thymosin the players took was the safe version, called thymomodulin.
ASADA can issue a show cause if it believes there has been a possible breach of doping rules.
In this case, they are more pointed, alleging the players took TB 4 and ASADA believe its legal advice, contrary to Essendon's, is strong.
The players are understood to be angry at what they believe was an insinuation at the weekend by ASADA boss Ben McDevitt that they didn't fully tell the truth at their initial interviews with ASADA and AFL investigators.
McDevitt said at the weekend: "We still need to know that the players have been honest and fulsome and fully co-operative.''
The anger comes because the players are aware ASADA has said the majority of the players fully co-operated in their initial interviews.
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A source close to the players said no player would accept ASADA's inducement of a six-month penalty if they now co-operated, a stance backed by Essendon chairman Paul Little.
Essendon lawyers, meanwhile, are seeking a commitment from ASADA to freeze its investigation into the players until the club's Federal Court challenge to the legality of the probe is resolved.
Coach James Hird has also made a similar request, via his lawyers.
It was reported yesterday the players have not ruled out joining the case against ASADA.
A source close to the players said yesterday the players were bemused that discussion on the anti-obesity drug, AOD-9604, had disappeared.
Articles criticising Essendon and its players for the alleged use of AOD-9604 won awards last year.
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At the time, AOD-9604 was considered an evil combination of numbers and letters and was widely reported to be a banned drug, which fuelled the "drug cheats'' landscape.
It was officially banned midway through 2013, but was not banned when the players used it in early 2012.
Sixteen months after the investigation began, which included claims the players and officials would be grilled about 35 drugs and supplements, the players have being asked to answer just one allegation — the use of TB-4.
Essendon claims there is no proof the players took it despite text messages between drug supplier Shane Charter and Dank, which included the ordering of "Thymosin'' vials.
ASADA says its proof is strong and the authority is prepared for a legal stoush.
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